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PostPosted: Sat 15:17, 13 Aug 2011 Back to top

Dariusz,
Read your blog OTT from the Inside. You made a very compelling case with the nicely done video with many great ballstrikers having this move in transition. This is something I will experiment with to understand what you have said better. From my experimentation, I get my best results when I am leading the transition with my body and let my power package (hands, arms, and shoulders) follow. You are saying to keep the elbows low on the backswing for this OTT move to work well which makes sense. How do you think about the right knee and right shoulder in relationship to the elbows in transition? The left shoulder seems to get all of the loading and compresses the sagital plane through to the right shoulder...my left shoulder is out further than my right in transition. Again, I don't control my swing using the power package, but these are points I monitor during the swing. As you say, you must optimize your swing for your body and make it natural so you can swing without conscious thought...vary your tempo from slow to fast and have a swing that produces accurate shots. The transition is very important to get a detailed understanding of because once you complete this during the swing, the result you will receive on the shot has been determined. It is nice to see that you have decided to come out with your beliefs about the OTT move instead of conventional swing theory which says it is a swing fault to do that…clearly the greatest ball strikers made it work very well.
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Rock
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PostPosted: Sat 21:10, 13 Aug 2011 Back to top

Rock,

welcome to our small forum, my friend. It's a honour to host someone like you here.

First, as you know me I am last man who would like to kiss asses of todays's shitty golf instruction that has no clue what's right and usually throw accusations on phenomena such as OTT; secondly, my beliefs about OTT are nothing new - the very Mr.Hogan suggested it in his book - too bad that it did not match ideas of pseudoexperts LOL Wink
Never ever listen to pseudoexperts who have no clue about physics and anatomy.

Enough rant - the transition should be led by the body from the ground up. Never by hands, arms or shoulders that are last in the queue. In short - one would need a help of the rear side of your body and horizontally oriented forces and torques. The natural limitation of the RoM of a joint is being met earlier, the closer to the ground this joint is.
Building the firm rear side from the ground up and letting the motion happen sequentially also from the ground up will automate totally the linear motion in the pelvis area. The rear hip joint will go where the rear femur will lead it. Since the rotational RoM of ankle joint is much smaller of that of knee joint and the latter is much smaller that this of hip joint, etc. - the sequentiality of reaction for torques is established perfectly from the ground up without leaving any other option left. Consequently, the rotational part is just a natural consequence of the end of linear part since, again, there is no other option left for a biped. As someone (probably Knudson or Trevino) wisely said "lateral shift must cause rotation in the end" - which is very true.
I called the whole concept some months ago as the Sagittal Plane Compression (SPC). There is a YT vid that explains the concept in detail visually as well as a series of articles on my site describing it in detail.

Be my guest, Rock, if you feel you need to. All the best and say hello to your SitD friends.

Cheers
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PostPosted: Tue 20:45, 18 Sep 2012 Back to top

On special request, I was asked on to record my actual swing. I did it several days ago and 6 vids from all three angles are available to see on my YT channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/h1e2x3?feature=mhee).
When watching and analyzing my motion I happened to notice a perfect example of OTT from inside being on a great plane from start to finish.

A plane established at address:
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Top of the backswing:
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The OTT of the hands element while clubhead shallowing and back to the plane:
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Hands back to the plane while clubhead shallowed even more by its inertia and allowing the clubhead to attack the ball slightly from the inside:
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Both hands and shaft again on the plane:
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Impact on perfect plane:
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Plane raising parallely to when finishing low and left thanks to pivot release:
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Follow through on a gradually parallel plane
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Cheers


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PostPosted: Tue 20:54, 18 Sep 2012 Back to top

The animated version of the downswing and follow through:

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Cheers


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